Sunday, May 22, 2005

MSM Fails Again: Factually incorrect Propaganda Printed in the Washington Post


If you want to become uninformed about Lebanon, read Annia Ciezadlo's piece "Lebanon's Election: Free but Not Fair" in Sunday's Washington Post. And where is that main stream media (MSM) "safeguard" that makes it so much better than blogs?

I was originally going to post a response, but the factual errors occur in every paragraph. Enumerating them is the best way to manifest the failures.

Here are factual transgressions:

First:
"This inequality [between sects] dates back to 1943, when the French handed Lebanon over to the country's French-speaking Maronite Christian elite and founded what is called the confessional system, with parliamentary and executive offices parceled out among the major religious sects."

This "background" sentence is so filled with errors I will break it apart in pieces.

The French didn't create the confessional system. In fact, they inherited it. Why would a fiercely Republican government set up such an odd system? They didn't do it in their colonies in Martinique, Algeria, or Senegal? Why was this system created in Lebanon?

Because they did not create it. In fact, if you want to blame anyone for confessionalism, blame the Ottoman's, which forced the Maronites and Druze into agreement during the mutasarifiyya. The French went with what was the precedent on the ground because they didn't have a better system to put in place when they took over in 1920.

Second flaw in that sentence: the French handed Lebanon over? Uhhh, which French were those? The Vichy French held on to Lebanon with all their might. Remember, 1943 was a period during which France wasn't even an operative country. Were they in any position to hands things in any direct?

The Lebanese won their independence with British aid. Let us not forget good General Spears who came roaring into this country on an anti-Vichy, anti-French colonist campaign. The British general was as much a partisan for a free Lebanon as anyone else, and he had to fight for it.

Why, then, were three of our national leaders thrown into prison by the French, with the fourth escaping only because he was in the Kit Kat Club when the goons came for him?
The French threw our first Maronite President Bechara Khoury into jail. They didn't hand him a thing.

Third flaw: those "executive parcels" were a creation of our founding fathers Bechara Khoury and Riad al-Solh when they forged the National Pact. Let's take a look at the French period. Maronite leader Emile Edde fulfilled every position possible, even occupying the office of Speaker of Parliament. Obviously, the French were not the ones who assigned the Speakership to a Shia.

Fourth flaw: "French-speaking Maronite elite." Hmmm... Riad al-Solh probably spoke French and, as a Sunni, was definitely not Maronite. The French merely empowered families that had already occupied positions of power in Lebanon. Some, like Edde, moved to grand positions through currying favor. Edde was much closer to the French than Khoury. Wait, when did Emile Edde become President? Oh, that's right. He never did.

Second: "Lebanon's election law creates a byzantine web of provinces and districts, exquisitely gerrymandered to give each of 18 sects a certain number of seats in parliament."

The election law didn't create those provinces and districts. One could make a case for the mohafaza of Nabatiyeh being a creation, but our qadaa' have pretty deep historical roots.

Do all the 18 sects get seats? I haven't seen many Jewish, Kurdish, or Bahai seats recently.

And who did that gerrymandering? Was it those evil, anti-Shia Maronites, or friendly, democracy loving Syrian Brigadier Ghazi Kanaan whose aim in life it was to enfranchise Lebanese voters?

Third false statement:
"The number of seats each sect gets bears little relation to its current weight in the population."

She goofed here as well. The Taef Accord - Pact of National Understanding that effectively ended the civil war and began Syrian reign - was not only about demographic factors. They didn't take a census. They assumed that Muslims and Christians deserve an equal share of seats in Parliament. Take a look at Joseph Maila's study on the document from the early nineties.

Fourth false statement:
"The U.S. State Department estimates Lebanon's population at about 70 percent Muslim and 23 percent Christian. (Estimates vary, because Lebanon hasn't held a census in 73 years, but few question that Muslims are a majority, with Shiites outweighing Sunnis. )"

Yikes! If we are to believe the statement from the third fallacy about "current weight", then the government must know how many of each sect are living in Lebanon. But now she admits that we don't know, so it's best to go with what the State Department says, even if it goes against the CIA's estimates of roughly 60% Muslim to 40% Christian.
And if the statistics are true, then we need to take a lot of seats away from Armenians and Druze, and give them to Greek Catholics and Shia (oh, those who spurn birth control). But Ciezadlo doesn't want to target the Druze, categorized as Muslim in the Lebanese equation.

Fifth:
"During the last election, in 2000, politicians running in the primarily Muslim south had to get three times as many votes to win a seat as those running in some Christian areas."

Yeah, that's right. That's because the district was intentionally made bigger to limit independent candidates and ensure a Hezbollah/Amal victory. Even Christians in the South needed significantly more votes than "those running in some Christian areas."

Let's not compare one voting district to another when they operate according to vastly different laws. And on a numbers level alone, that's like noting that it took Mayor Daley of Chicago more votes to get elected than the Mayor of Cheboygan. Isn't it obvious.

Let's look at Christian versus Christian, and Shia versus Shia. A Christian or Shia running in the South or Bekaa would need significantly more votes to win than a Christian or Shia in Jbeil. That's because the Christians in Jbeil and in the South are not fully franchised - for different reasons, not because the Shia are limited.

The law in Mount Lebanon is meant to limit Christian power while giving the Druze and Shia more. The law in the South is meant to limit Christian power, while giving the Shia inordinate amount of power. Certain districts in Lebanon have major sectarian biases. In fact, the only muhafaza in Lebanon that has a slightly even sectarian playing field is the North. The South is dominated by Shia and Mount Lebanon is dominated by Christians.

By having the South vote en masse, the Shia are super-empowered to elect the candidates of all sects running in the South. If the law was written the same way in Mount Lebanon, then Christians would be super-empowered to choose all the seats, including those for the Shia and Druze.

That would absolutely destroy any Druze base of power. Those "poor" people in Dahiye Ciezadlo mentions would never be able to elect a Hezbollah representative because the Christians would over rule them.

That is the difference betweem the two districts. Compared to the South, the Christians are without power. Voting on a small scale means that localities get to choose their leadership, which is what the Christians are asking for nationwide. That means that the Shia in Dahiye get to vote for their own candidates and the Christians in the South get to vote for their own people.

To compare the Lebanese system to the American: Voting in Mount Lebanon is like voting according to the typical congressional district. Voters in New York vote for their Congressman based on their local district. Although New York is a blue state and Democrats in NYC outnumber Republicans 2:1, members of both parties are elected to represent different communities in Congress. Upstate voters and Long Island voters get their Republican Reps like Peter King and Tom Reynolds, while NYC gets Charlie Rangel, Nydia Velazquez, and Gary Ackerman.

The areas in South Lebanon would be a distortion of this sort: everyone in Texas votes en masse for all the representatives. Given the number of Republicans in the entire state of Texas, Democrats in Houston and Austin would not stand a chance. Every person in Houston might vote against the person elected to represent them in Congress, but if that person gets the most votes statewide, he wins.

Now, in the next election make New York voters elect their representatives in the usual way giving seats to both parties and allow Texas to vote an entirely Republican slate where the elected officials only nominally represent their constituents. The New Yorkers will want to implement Texas style measures to compete with Texas on the national level.

But Lebanese Christians can't do that because it means the absolute disenfranchisement of an influential sect, the Druze.

Sixth fallacy:
"Another of the many ironies of the system is that Lebanon's preeminent politician can't ever be president; he's barred from running for prime minister; and he isn't even eligible to be speaker of parliament. Why? Because that politician -- opposition leader Walid Jumblatt -- is a Druze Muslim."

It's saying a lot to call Jumblatt the "preeminent politician," but I will put this aside regardless of my previous posts.
Walid did get shafted in the Taef era. He was supposed become the head of a newly created Senate, but that Senate was never formed. In fact, it was those dirty French who originally created the Senate. But the Senate was disbanded under their watch.

Poor Walid can't become President. But Taef effectively strips the President of all of his powers anyway. Taef says the President should serve merely as a symbol of state. Power in the Taef era is invested in the Council of Ministers, which the President does not have the power to convene or disband. He cannot vote in the body, and he must enact their edicts without any veto power.
The President is technically commander in chief of the army, but the Army is placed under the authority of the Council of ministers. The current Presidents have gained power through Syrian twists to the Taef accords. The Syrians forced the President, Prime Minister, and Speaker of Parliament to agree on the make up of the Council of Ministers, which gave the President a few chips in the influential body. The President also got his own army unit that reports only to him under Syria's watch.

Ciezadlo is right to point out one of the flaws of confessionalism that could be fixed, interestingly enough, if we looked to the power sharing agreement forged in Iraq. But even there, we will never see a Christian Iraqi President even if the best politician is Christian because it is unconstitutional.

The current system was constructed to relieve sectarian fighting. Why push to become President if you never have the opportunity to do it? There just has to be an equilizer for Druze promotion.

Or, is there a problem? Americans love to cheer about the freedom of opportunity. They hate to see rules that make it impossible for something to ever happen. America doesn't have any laws against Muslim presidents, but I doubt I will see one any time soon. Muslims make up around 3% of America, just under the Druze percentage in Lebanon. Is anyone in America arguing for a Muslim opportunity to become president even though it won't happen under the present system?

Seventh fallacy:
"In Lebanon, if he [Ciezadlo's Bush voting Lebanese friend] goes to the trouble of voting, he'll have little alternative to Hezbollah, the armed Shiite militia, because that's who dominates the slate in his ancestral village."

Yeah, that's what the Christians have been saying. The problem with the election law is not that it is biased in favor of the Christians. Fascinating that she can't see through her own rhetoric.

Eighth fallacy:
"In the summer, when Beirut's seaside breeze turns to a steamy blast, the Electricite du Liban stops bringing electricity to the dahiya."

Oh, poor Dahiye, where Hezbollah makes sure that the residents never have to pay for electricity.

Regardless, Lebanon has rolling blackouts. Dahiye residents are lucky enough to get electricity throughout the year. Their brethren away from Beirut are not so lucky. The affluent Christian suburbs of Beirut suffer from more power outages than Dahiye.

Electricity generators are common sites on buildings around this country for a reason. Dahiye is not being oppressed. In fact, they are beneficiaries when it comes to electricity given their Hezbollah wasta.

Ninth:
"Enter Hezbollah -- a political machine for people left out of the political system."

How many government officials stand up for the thousands of supporters of Michel Aoun, the Lebanese Forces, and the Guardians of the Cedars (the closest equivalent to a Christian terrorist organization)? Who is the only militia leader rotting in jail? How many Hezbollah supporters are rotting in Syrian prisons and continually tortured?

Tenth:
"The party's special status as an armed faction is the Shiites' de facto consolation prize for being disenfranchised."

WHAT???!!!!
How about free electricity, millions of dollars from Iran, and the power to destablize a nation in an instant?

Eleventh:
"In the dahiya and southern Lebanon, Hezbollah has become a powerful shadow government, building a network of schools, hospitals and charities."

Yeah, Hezbollah beats up government ministers when they try to enter their areas and refuses to allow the Lebanese Army in.

When the state tried to reconstruct Dahiye under the Elissar project (see my comment from a few days ago), Hezbollah canceled the project by screaming about a bunch of sectarian conspiracies. Then they went back to their people and said, "Hey, the government won't do anything for you, so you better be happy that we are here."

Twelfth:
"If Bush wants to help Lebanon disarm Hezbollah peacefully -- and if he wants to deserve his reputation as a liberator of the Arab world's downtrodden Shiites -- he'll encourage Lebanon's Christians to give up their special privileges"

Hezbollah is the party with an arsenal of rockets and unmanned drones, and the Christans are privileged?
As the last paragraph noted, Hezbollah has had a mighty hand in making sure that their community is downtrodden. Sadly, this has been a prominent characteristic of Shia leaders going back to the leaderships of the Hamade in the Bekaa and the Asad and Osseiran in the South.
Only Musa Sadr was able to get his people some true representation. Lebanese Shia Ayatollah Fadlallah, one of the greatest minds in the Arab world, has been marginalized by Syria and Hezbollah.
It is a mistake to compare Christian economic affluence and Shia poverty to relative levels of political strength.

Overall, a ridiculously atrocious article. And I barely got started.

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

Very well put! Thank you for the best explanation of Lebanese politics I've read so far. (Not that I understand Lebanese politics, but as long as you do....)

I don't know what your post would be called in Lebanon, but Americans would call it a righteous and well-deserved bitch-slap! :-D

Barbara Skolaut

Rob said...

excellent fisking. You seem to know what you're talking about....Well done!

Anonymous said...

The MSM gets it dead wrong again.

The MSM's motto seems to be "fake, but not totally implausible."

carine said...

ahhh i just clicked over to LPJ from reading/being outraged by this very article!!!

lebanon.profile, PLEASE send ciezadlo your post!!!! her email address (as you probably noticed) is at the end of the article. if you have the time, i'd send a more condensed version as a reader's letter to the washington post, too. it's absolutely horrifying to think about the literally millions of people who read the washington post and will take her piece at face value (esp. due to her "expert" status as a beirut resident married to a "disenfranchised" shia).

also, as a side note, kudos to LP on the wryness... i had to laugh out loud several times while reading this post :)))

spaceman said...

Details, details, stop troubling us with facts.

Anonymous said...

Well the current mantra of the American MSM is 'if its Muslim it must be right.'

Anonymous said...

I had this egregiously flawed article delivered to my home today, and was enraged after reading it this afternoon. My rage, as usual, is of the impotent sort: even if I reply, nothing will be printed, damage is done. You are so well informed, please do me a favor and submit a letter or op ed bit to the Post for me. You can use OPED@washpost.com or letters@washpost.com.

Karridine said...

Just Google "May 23, 1844" and find another relevant FACT about Lebanon.

And in reading your GREAT fisking, I call to mind the warnings about "the Evil Whisperer, who whispers in the breasts of mankind..."

MSM... Evil Whisperer... mumble...

carine said...

ahh anonymous has raised the bar in the campaign to get lebanon.profile to submit this one formally-- actual addresses! SO, here's the author's... if LP is going to take this one on for all the rest of us, guess the least i can do is um, copy and paste:

anniaciezadlo-outlook@yahoo.com

jakita said...

I found your blog via Little Green Footballs. I've bookmarked it, and I hope you keep writing about Lebanese politics. It's only through blogs like yours that Americans like me can get a truer picture of affairs in other countries. Most American journalists are too uneducated and too lazy to seek out the facts, so they just repeat what they hear in bars, or wherever they find their "sources."

It's good to get your input. Thanks!

Leba4ever said...

I am glad someone took the time to comment on that article by MSM. I was extremely shocked after reading it at the level of ignorance of the author.

ThinkingMan said...

we should all send an email to the editor's address more than to the author.
the editor is ultimately responsible for fact checking and they should be held responsible.

Leb4ever said...

Thinkingman good job with your blog. I check it every now and then. I agree we should contact Washington Post as well for posting propaganda.

carine said...

on the washington post website, there is only contact information for one member of the "outlook" editorial staff (outlook is the section of the post that the article appeared in). he may well not have been the editor on this piece, but it's his department and apparently quite a small one. if we want to engage the editors, writing him is probably a solid bet:

Steven Mufson: mufsons@washpost.com
(Deputy Editor, Outlook)

Leb4Ever said...

We should mass email them.. I will forward the message to my email list.

Leb4ever said...

I believe we can send message to OPED@washpost.com and letters@washpost.com as well.

ThinkingMan said...

But be careful not to make it look like spam, or we'll look as bad. Each message has to be firm and professional. If they get innundated, they may ignore it.
I sent a short message referencing this blog.

Leb4Ever said...

I apologize for any misunderstanding. I meant by "mass email" sending messages from different individuals and not several emails by the same person.

ZM said...

Another great post! Very eloquently put!
I agree with others here that you should let the Post know your comments.

Unfrozen Caveman Linguist said...

Way to serve notice to the Post for publishing that piece of junk. They should know better.

However, my wife puts you on notice as well - the person in question was not in the Kit-Kat club as you mention, but in Bchamoun forming the new government that ultimately officially declared independence. Perhaps you may have heard something from a partisan source that says otherwise; just remember that talk is as cheap in Lebanon as it is in Chicago. And remember, I am only the messenger - and a caveman to boot - and your world frightens and confuses me :)

Anonymous said...

The Washington Post article was ridiculous indeed but one point you raise in your rebuttal is untrue.
It is right that the french inherited the sectarian system but contrary to what you say, their policy in other parts of the world is consistent with such kind of sectarian attitudes. The most telling example is Algeria where the Decret Cremieux they issued kindled sectarian flames.
Besides, the French were already active in Lebanon when the country was dominated by the Ottomans and Napoleon the 3rd played a role in the establishment of a mutassarifya like system.

Ramzi S said...

“The current system was constructed to relieve sectarian fighting. Why push to become President if you never have the opportunity to do it? There just has to be an equilizer for Druze promotion.”

Honestly that is just a terrible statement in so many ways. It can be argued that the driving force of Kamal Jumblat’s divisive politics in his last years was to unseat the Maronite’s hold on the Presidency.

There will always be politicians who will aspire to the highest office in the land. And if that way is blocked to them based on their religion the results can be bad for the country. If Kamal had a legal path to the top he may have played his politics differently. Same thing with Walid.

How can you tell young Lebanese to become nationalists when they cannot aspire to the highest office in the land? Much less join the army and give their lives to their country?

Leb4Ever said...

What if extremists get hold of that seat?? Do you think Lebanon is ready for such a drastic change?

Ramzi S said...

Well we currently have a president who is a traitor to his own country. How much more extreme can it get?

Keeping the presidency for any religion whether it is Muslim, Christian or Druze does not guarantee anything.

Checks and balances in our democratic system exist to prevent extremists from reaching that position. And if they do, the parliament and other institutions can block their absolute power.

Shifts to the right and to the left will always happen. i.e. as in the USA Clinton and then Bush presidency. But there absolute power is always checked.

Leb4Ever said...

I agree we need change but I don't trust the check and balances system taht's currently in place in Lebanon. There aren't much transparency as well and it'd very hard for newbies to enter politics. Who are the politicians inside Lebanon today?? Aren't they all realted to the same old ruling families? Until that changes, nothing will..

Leb4ever said...

Sorry for the typos in my previous message.. I'm using my laptop.

Tom Grey said...

Important Fisking, and often great -- but not always.
I wish you had even fewer unanswered questions(for those more versed in Europe than ME history).

Wait, when did Emile Edde become President? Oh, that's right. He never did.
This is great;
as is:

But Lebanese Christians can't do that because it means the absolute disenfranchisement of an influential sect, the Druze.

But I actually don't know, and would like to:
Who is the only militia leader rotting in jail? How many Hezbollah supporters are rotting in Syrian prisons and continually tortured?

I think some "in jail? (name)" real quick answers would have made a current history lesson where I'd get more answers right on the pop-quiz.
(If you wanted to be a professor.)

Charles Malik said...

Caveman,
I didn't mean to disrepect one of our nation's founders, but I do believe my source was a bit partisan (a member of the PSP from Choueifat). There is no dispute that the government was formed, but rather over where he was when the cops came for him. That's something that a Caveman probably has better knowledge of than a profile.

Ramzi S,
For more on Kamal Jumblatt's alleged battle to assume the presidency, see Farid el-Khazen's "Kamal Jumblatt: The Druze Prince of the Left."
But one must remember that Jumblatt's battle was not only for the presidency. He had a leftist, pan-Arabist, Soviet agenda. In his writings, he argues that it's impossible to claim a Lebanese identity. This among many reasons is why Khazen thinks Jumblatt wanted to be a minority ruler of a diverse country - like Hafez al-Assad in Syria - and for this reason al-Assad killed having seen in another traits he possessed. I can't make any claims to that. It's just Khazen's thesis. Many, many people will dispute it, and have.

Mork said...

So, I read the article, and then I read this commentary, and I don't really see how this post undermines the thrust of the article at all. Most of these items are basically nitpicking or trivial to the article as a whole (e.g. fallacies 1, 2, 4, and 8). On most of the others, you don't seem to actually disagree with what was reported, it's just that you wish that it had been written with a particular spin that supports your world view.

You're obviously tapping into a segment of the blogmire here where folks will blow smoke up your ass all day as long as you tell them what you want to hear, but you're not going to persuade anyone who doesn't already have strong preconceptions with shoddy and overblown "analysis" like this.

Leb4Ever said...

The article as a whole is full of fallacies due to the fact that the author tries to put a spin on thing to make it seem like the Shi'ites are marginalized in the elections when the fact is they aren't. For instance, Al Berri gets to hand pick the representatives in parliament for all of the seats in the South! The Chrisitians on the other hand cab only pick 18 of the representatives out of the 64 seats alloted to them. I'm sure this probably sounds like Gibberish to you especially since it seems like you're not familiar with Lebanese politics or how elections are run so I suggest you read up..

LEB4EVER said...

The article as a whole is full of fallacies due to the fact that the author tries to put a spin on things to make it seem like the Shi'ites are marginalized in the elections when the fact is they aren't. For instance, Al Berri gets to hand pick the representatives in parliament for all of the seats in the South! The Chrisitians on the other hand can only pick 18 of the representatives out of the 64 seats alloted to them. I'm sure this probably sounds like Gibberish to you especially since it seems like you're not familiar with Lebanese politics or how elections are run so I suggest you read up..

Charles Malik said...

Mork,
You don't seem to understand the dynamic that goes on in the Middle East. If you think there are few differences between what I wrote and what she wrote, then you have failed to grasp the situation.
History is a big deal here. It's not the difference between whethere the New Deal was good or bad. Claiming that the Maronites have special privileges and were "handed" them from France are words that spark wars when believed. There are plenty of people ready to bloody Maronite noses.
Claiming Shia oppression adds fodder to Hezbollah's bloated rhetoric. Most people fail to examine Hezbollah's oppression of their own constituency.
I do disagree that the elections are flawed. That should have been apparent to you. We fundamentally disagree: she thinks the elections are biased against the Shia, when, in reality, they are biased against the Christians and in favor of the Shia. That's a pretty big deal.

Anonymous said...

Listing of WaPo writer/editor email addresses:

http://
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/interact/longterm/
stfbio/wpemail.htm#C

Mork said...

Of course you are right that I don't have a deep understanding of Lebanon - but I certainly wasn't going to get one from your post.

Because you've become associated with bloggers from a certain extreme in the American political landscape, you have an audience here that will cheer any time you insult the "MSM" - hell, they'll cheer any time you even refer to it as the "MSM", because it shows that you are part of their club. But they're not really interested in learning anything. They are mostly interested in hearing someone tell them that what they already believe is right.

So, you know, you'll get an adoring link from Michael Totten or his ilk every time you rant about how evil and stupid the MSM is, but serious people understand that journalists like Annia Ciezadlo are basically intelligent, honest people who land in a place, speak to a bunch of people with a bunch of different viewpoints over a short period of time and then try to digest everything they've learned. So, yeah, it's not a perfect process, but nor is she just making stuff up: she is obviously reflecting things that she was told by various Lebanese leaders.

So, if you really want to convince people (as opposed to just playing to the peanut gallery), you'd be better off turning down the angry rhetoric and the baseless charges of lying (especially when the examples you come up with are so trivial) and calmly explaining to your readers why her viewpoint differs from yours and why yours is to be preferred - as you have started to do in your comment above.

Leb4Ever said...

Mr Mork, Annie didn't base any of her claims on facts. She cried marginalization for Shi'ites when the truth is the very opposite. How are you any different from people who are anti-Washington post when you cannot accept opinions that are different from your own?? If her article was just about stating an opinion, I would've accepted it (no matter how deviant it was) but she made several references to what she called facts while failing to back up her arguments. For instance, Lebanese Christians are not 23% of Lebanon and no I wouldn't trust some shmock who says yes they are! Facts prove they're not and yes the government keeps up-to-date records of religious divisions inside the country. They are used in elections yearly and I have the documents to prove it. She is COMPLETELY "CLUELESS" about Lebanon. I'm surprised she has a job in journalism there. It's a shame if this is the best they can send.

Mork said...

Leb4ever, perhaps you should reread my post. All I'm pointing out is that you're never going to convince anyone of anything if you couch your arguments in an unhinged personal attack on the person you're disagreeing with.

If you can't respond rationally and reasonably to this article, why should I, as an open-minded reader, assume that anything else you say is rational or reasonable?

Leb4Ever said...

If you fail to see ration and reason in the fact that Shi'ites are not marginalized in these elections unlike what she claimed than that's not my problem. She claims that Christians got most of the seats in parliament while the fact is that they only got to pick 18 of the representatives out of the 64 seats alloted to them. The rest were picked by Nabih Berri (Shi'ite speaker of the housein Lebanon) and Saad Hariri (Sunni potential prime miniter and son of assassinated former prime minister Rafik Hariri). The fact is if Shi'ites were truly marginalized they would have raised hell and beyond. To understand the current electoral law better (which by the way was divised by Syria), I suggest you check out the following link:
http://www.alcc-research.com/activities/ElectionLaw.html

Leb4Ever said...

Also, read the following:
http://www.lebanese4ever.com/newsphp/fullnews.php?id=535

Charles Malik said...

mork,
You're right about the rhetoric. I added MSM in the title at the last minute specifically to attract an audience.
You know why?
Because Ciezadlo has a mass audience by merely sending in an op-ed, and I have to attract it. There is no way to undo her misrepresentation without putting out something that will be viewed. And as a Lebanese student thousands of miles away from DC, I don't have the connections or the swanky title to have my op-ed printed in the Post.
A former American soldier in Lebanon who wrote a book printed a bad article in the NYTimes after the Hariri assassination. They requested it from him. They didn't pick up a single op-ed from a Lebanese writer.

Secondly, you are right about me not attacking her arguments. That's because she really doesn't make consistent arguments. She proposes a lot of facts without backing up her conclusion that the Shia are oppressed.
She massively distorts Lebanese history. If you look at her bio, she lives here, and it seems she has been indoctrinated in a political belief. If she was articulating that political belief with facts, I wouldn't have cried out. If she did not have such a grand audience, I wouldn't have said anything.

Articles like hers are published daily in the Lebanese papers, but no one reads them. We know the stances of political parties and how their members are not normally the most informed individuals.
The WP is a totally different story.
She should at least get her facts right.

By the way, Totten is a member of the MSM. His isn't one of the big anti-media blogs.

I hope you come back to read these comments.
You're right. I felt bad about bashing Ciezadlo, but the WP matters. al-Balad doesn't.

Michael J. Totten said...

Mork: "Because you've become associated with bloggers from a certain extreme in the American political landscape."

Dude, he's a John Kerry supporter. Not a Lebanese Bushie, not a neocon, not whatever you apparently think he is.

"So, you know, you'll get an adoring link from Michael Totten or his ilk"

LP is a personal friend of mine. He and I travelled all over Lebanon together. So why don't you just get stuffed.

- Michael Totten

Leb4Ever said...

Lebanon Profile, is there a way we can exchange emails? Let me know.

leb said...

Wow..you really must hate Hezbollah...I guess they cost you and your family some house or something


1. They do cut the electricity in the Dahyie area more than in any other Beirut suburb. I am sure you don't live in Dahiye.

2. Yes I am sure the British General of whom you so fondly speak came to "liberate Lebanon" because he loved it so much. What is wrong with you?

3.The Shia are not only marginalized in terms of voting power and the crappy "speaker of parliament" assignment, they are stuck between Amal and Hizballah..of the 1.2 million only maybe 350'000 belong to those 2 parties.

4.Leb4ever, you don't want the Shiites to "raise hell and beyond", dude, where do you live?
Whats wrong with you?

5. Man LebanonProfile....I hope someone strips you of your passport because its people like you who will never accept a non-sectarian Lebanon.

Not gay with Totten, LProfile and Leb4ever said...
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Charles Malik said...

This is a family friendly blog.
I haven't censored this blog to now, but when profanity is used I see no other choice.
The use of such invective against me and other commenters is not to dialogue, but rather to harm and shock.
You're lucky I'm still allowing anonymous comments, but you've gone a good way to ruining it for everyone.

leb said...

well..no one answered me.

so much for you solid arguments