Sunday, October 23, 2005

The Battle Over Syria - Don't Forget about Justice in Lebanon

Syria has launched an interesting ploy in response to the Mehlis Report. American blogger Joshua Landis is offering the Syrian regime assistance in promoting their rhetoric.

What maks their stance so offensive to me is that they entirely neglect Lebanon. To them, Syria didn't bring this mess on itself: "This whole situation is entirely an American game that has to do with Iraq with Syria in the middle. Lebanon? Hariri? Justice? No, no, no. This is all about Syria and America, and America's current abuse of Syria." This line of thinking is downright offensive to anyone who gives a wink about Lebanon or justice or terror or conspiracy to commit murder or blackmail or...

Landis posts a letter from Syrian Ambassador to the United States Imad Mustapha. Over the last few weeks, Landis has made many similar claims to those offered by the Ambassador.

The Syrians are framing the current debate as one between the United States and Syria. They are basically contending that "the Mehlis Report is simply a token part of America's argument. The Mehlis Commission is merely a device through which to use international institutions to isolate Syria for other reasons."
There is some truth to this argument, and Lebanese are frightened that the US will make some sort of deal with Syria that denies justice to our country.

Syria is smart to dialogue with prominent Americans that could put pressure on the administration.
Syria is trying to define the debate as being about Iraq. Landis makes the outrageous claim that the Bush Administration is allowing the killing of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians by not engaging with Syria. In their logic, the US campaign for democracy is somehow damaging the campaign in Iraq. This argument is appealing in the face of growing American opposition to the Iraq War. They are offering Americans a way to say, "Support our troops," even if it is really a way to say, "Support the Assad regime."

Regardless of how tailored the Syrian and Landis arguments are to the American audience, they do not reflect the truth.

1. Mustapha and Landis argue that America is putting pressure on Syria to secure its border. They contend that if America cooperated with Syria, even more terror in Iraq could be stopped. Simultaneously, Syria claims it has secured the border. In his letter, Mustapha claims that the border patrol is now at 10,000 men and that Syria has built massive walls of sand.
So, why haven't insurgents stopped coming across the border? The Syrians claim they can't do much more. But is it America's job to stop terrorist activities brewing in Syria? Does Syria want a brigade of FBI investigators running around their country looking for insurgents? Wouldn't that be an infringement on Syrian sovereignty? Americans don't have nearly as much experience implementing security states as a regime that's been doing that for forty years.
So, how EXACTLY would American "cooperation" do anything to stop the insurgent campaign in Iraq? Or, is that just a Syrian excuse to get the US to stop pressuring them?

2. The Mustapha and Landis arguments are predicated on the possible collapse of the Syrian regime. They claim that this will cause horrible things to happen: ethnic strife, the proliferation of terror, the Syrian black market being used to promote terrorism, further conflict in Lebanon, a mass wave of immigration to Europe, and on. However, it's truly hard to see all of this happening simultaneously.
a. Syrians are already part of the massive immigration wave to Europe. Ask the Greeks.
Of course, violent conflict would create refugees, but violent conflict is not guaranteed. That is, unless the Assad regime wants to make sure that proliferation of violent conflict occurs with the collapse of the regime. If so, the US would be keeping the regime in power because the regime is blackmailing the region.
b. Would Syrian terrorists up and move to Iraq if ethnic conflict occurred at home? Will more American soldiers die because Syrian terrorists stop going to Iraq? Would the US and Kurdish peshmerga stand by and watch as terrorists from other countries flock to war torn Syrian to take advantage of the black market and then use Syria as an entry point into Iraq?
c. Aren't there possible ways for the Assad regime to come down without violent consequences? Tony Badran has a few suggestions.

3. Mustapha and Landis are claiming that if only America dialogued with Syria, all of the problems would stop. They claim that Syria is not promoting terror. Landis uses arguments made by human rights officials (translation, Democrats read this part) to say that Syria is cracking down on Islamic militants.
And yet we know that Syria continues to support Palestinian terror and is promoting the terror campaign in Lebanon. The Palestinian Authority is being undermined because the violent parties remove legitimacy from Mahmoud Abbas. Dennis Ross believes Abbas needs to reign these folks in to gain credibility. But how can Abbas do this if Syria is constantly supporting Palestinian terror.
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command leader Ahmad Jibreel was receiving massive shipments of weapons until the Lebanese government stopped their illegal movement from Syria just a few weeks ago. When UN inspectors went to the Bekaa to investigate if Syria fully complied with the pull out this past spring, Jibreel's men fired on them. Jibreel was accused in the Mehlis Report of taking part in the Hariri assassination.
This week, the Lebanese government arrested men responsible for the recent assassination and terror campaign in Lebanon. These men claim that Syrian Brigadier General Jamaa Jamaa was the one who initiated and supported these attacks. And Syria and Landis claim that the Assad regime is cracking down on terrorism?

Syria wants to play the game both ways. It wants to claim that it doesn't support terror, but then also hold "cards" for negotiations. They want to claim their innocence, but then have bargaining chips with the US and Israel. They want to continue ruling Lebanon by controlling machines of violence.

4. The Syrians and Landis completely neglect the importance of the Mehlis Commission to Lebanon. It's as if the Hariri assassination isn't a big deal to them. It's as if they are saying, "Why should a government collapse if the entire leadership is implicated in a terrorist attack they planned, implemented, covered up, have lied about, and intentionally obscured?"
They claim the whole debate is about Iraq and Syria's relations with the United States. But they are wrong and intentionally misleading.
In a post prior to reprinting Imad Mustapha's propaganda, Landis posts an interview with US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton. In this interview, Bolton continually stresses that the main issue of importance regarding the Mehlis Commission is the heinous act Syrian security commited in Lebanon. He does not suggest that the Syrian regime needs to be overthrown.

I'm glad that the United States is defending the interest of Lebanon and the Mehlis Commission at the UN. Lebanon does not have the power to do so itself, and Syria is continually trying to work its way back into Lebanon.

We have nothing to do with the US debate over Iraq. But we do need the Mehlis Commission, and we do think that the Assad regime needs to be held accountable until it fully complies with the Commission. Given that the Mehlis Report implicated the Syrian regime, we believe those found responsible must be brought to trial.

Overthrowing the regime is another issue entirely, and yet that is what the Assad regime and Landis are focusing on. They are basically saying, "Why should the Syrian regime cooperate with the Mehlis Commission? Why should the Hariri family and the Lebanese people know the truth? Why should we admit that we committed an indefensible attack? The only thing important to us is our regime, and we will make excuses up as to why we should be kept around. Those excuses include our ability to blackmail you by threatening the stability of the entire region. If you bring us down, we will launch a terror campaign against everyone else in the neighborhood. If you let us stay around, we'll do something for you about Iraq."

Landis and Mustapha may not be admitting this, but stellar journalist Anthony Shadid - who the propaganda abetting Landis even links to - gets Syrian parliamentarian Georges Jabbour to admit this: ""Of course, we know really what matters to the United States is Iraq," said Jabbour, the Syrian legislator. "So is there a Syrian-American deal on Iraq? Would Syria help the United States pacify Iraq? I don't know.""

31 comments:

Anton Efendi said...

Here's the link to my post on the "Syrian Taef."

Anonymous said...

This post pathetically parrots the official US line. Try to exercise your critical judgement.
You talk of a "US campaign for democracy", you talk of "Palestinian terror". What are you, the GOP's press attaché ? Do you really think the US is in Iraq to promote democracy ? Do you really think "Palestinian terror" is the obstacle to peace in the MidEast ?
You are blinded by anti-Syrian hate. Bush is no better than Bachar. He is actually much more dangerous. Now that Syria is out of Lebanon, we have no reason to go after the Syrian regime. A regime change in Syria will have disastrous consequences in Lebanon. Josh Landis is right on target. The current debate is one between the US and Syria : Lebanon and the Mehlis report are only bargaining chips.

Charles Malik said...

Anonymous,

Are you serious?

There are so many flaws in your short retort, I don't know where to start.

First, I didn't know there was an official US line, and if there is, I haven't read it. I haven't listened to Condi's or Bush's speeches, and it was only through Landis that I got Bolton's speech.

I'm examine what is going on by how it effects Lebanon, and you and Landis don't do that at all. The stability of an entire country is attached to the Mehlis Report. If you read my last few posts, you would know that. You may think this is just a political game being played, but millions of people in Lebanon care about what Mehlis has to say. You and Landis are just writing all of us off so that you can support what? The Assad regime? Freedom? What?

You claim that Bashar is as bad as Bush and that the US only has bad reasons to be in Iraq. Fine, but how is that an argument against Bashar.

Did you see anything in my post about hate toward Syria? How am I blinded?
I have no problem with the Syrian people. I don't have a problem with its existence as a nation (even though Baathists have a problem with Lebanon's sovereign existence). I even argue that the Assad regime doesn't need to be overthrown.
What I do ask for is accountability. Am I supposed to go along with your argument that the Assad regime doesn't need to be held accountable because of Bush's behavior? What is your point?
You claim Bush is more dangerous than Bashar. Fine, but has Bush assassinated a former Lebanese prime minister? Has Bush harmed Lebanon in any way?

Do you really believe that Syria is fully out of Lebanon? You are sadly misinformed. Along with that, you claim that there's no such thing as Palestinian terror. You're obviously not acquainted with Ahmad Jibreel (whom I discuss in the original post).

By playing into this stupid theory that this is all a game between states, you risk the freedom and sovereignty of millions of people.

I don't know who or where you are, but I truly hope that you have nothing to do with policy making anywhere, especially in regards to the future of Lebanon.

My life and the lives of my countrymen are not just part of a game between the US and Syria.

c. sydow said...

Great page, Nice and very informative articles. i also have a blog covering the middle east. unfortunately in german only.
by the way, "anonymous"`s point of view is not too far away from reality....

JoseyWales said...

"You are blinded by..." has got to be the most idiotic cliche of the rambling and argument-less.

Good for you LP if you have time to waste with the Bush-US obsessed idiots.

As to Syria wanting to make the "stability" case and deal over it, here's breaking news to Assad and his minions:

Post 9-11, the US has decided that it does NOT want that kind of stability anymore. Translation: Arafat ignored, Saddam removed, Qaddafi managed a deal, Lebanon moved to the forefront.

The US is not interested in Baath-style stability anymore, and the Syrians do not get it.

I happen to support this US stance, and I happen to think it is good for the Middle East and its people (albeit late).

I think regime change is good, US or not. If you want to keep those regimes tell us why we need them forever or for another 5 years.

Don't tell me shit about being a right-winger or a FX news watcher or a Bushie...

PS German blogger Sydow, of course u agree with US critics. That's a big shock. Isn't that what 99% of the opinion is in the diverse and enlightened EU?

OK it's a stereotype, Sue me.

JoseyWales said...

One more thing LP,

We should be mad when people say it's about Syria and the US etc..

We Lebanese are guilty of not asserting our demands.

I.e. Pols say "A free Lebanon is good for Syria", "Leb Army in camps is good for the Palestians too" etc

These statements may be be true.

However, we should say "a free Lebanon is what we want and screw you, it's none of your business".

Same for the camps.

Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

It was an excellent post Anton! It's a masterpiece!

LP, what were you expecting? Two generations were brought up under the Syrian regime and received no political education. These guys speak English and blog on the net, they are supposed to be the elite of Syria. You understand why I am not advocating a regime change in Syria. On the medium term, a strong carrot and stick policy is the best option for Syria. On the long term, the Syrian regime must go.

And I agree, Josh's post is really bad. The quality of his blog has been decreasing recently.

Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...
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Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

About Iraq, I think that a deal is not necessary anymore. A deal would have made some difference in 2003 or in 2004, but today it's too late - the insurgency is losing and a deal with Syria will not significantly affect the situation in Iraq. There's little to negotiate.

And JW, good point. Lebanon first.

Ruby said...

About securing borders...Borders are shared by two countries..why the hell doesn't the US secure the borders of the country which they occupy with a massive military and cause insurgency havoc in?

Bush wants to invade Syria with soundbite politics just as he sold the war in Iraq. Now that his image is shit in the US, Lebanon is the only story left to exploit in an attempt to divert attention. Anyone who cares about Lebanon should be very disinterested in more instability in neighboring countries and very suspicious of Bush's fake interest in 'Operation Lebanon Freedom.'

Anonymous said...

What massive American presence pal? THere's 100 000 men for a big country, and most of the soldiers are busy fighting the guerilla.

And the US army is in Iraq with the consent of the democratically elected government, there's no occupation.

Anonymous said...

You suffer from a common Lebanese disease : you think the whole world revolves around your notsril, you think the Superpowers give a damn about Lebanon.
It's time for Lebanon to move forward, to forget about Mehlis and co and to start builidng a viable country. We all know Syria killed Hariri. What more do you want ? Cowboy style revenge ?

You write : "My life and the lives of my countrymen are not just part of a game between the US and Syria"

Well I have news for you. Throughout history, Lebanese lives have been part of a game between superpowers. The only way we could get out of this is by maintaining our independence form all, which you fail to do, since you and many lebanese seem to root for Bush's misguided policies in the US. Just a few days ago, you suggested we replace Syrian hegemony with a US hegemony.

Anonymous said...

anon above

Syria is still in Lebanon and it is still trying to destabilize Lebanon. This regime is a threat to us and it will try to come back as soon as it can.
I am against an invasion of Syria, but the teeth of Syria's government should be broken. Otherwise it will continue to bite.

Adam Sullivan said...

While it may be Syria framing things as the US vs poor little Syria, other arab states (which know better) are going along.

This is just an extension of the "blame elsewhere" rhetoric that has kept all of the tyrants in business - the appeal to the Ummah.

Egypt got things rolling well before the UN report release whan it was in Russia trying to lobby for "stability" in the region by securing a veto against any UNSC action. The Sauds are pumping out the "stability" rhetoric as blatantly as Assad himself. Kuwait has lept its mouth shut - if it truly was US vs. Syria, they'd pipe in.

American bloggers will have a warped perspective, of course. But your local tyrants have been working for some time to preserve the Syrian state as-is and deny any accountability, all in the name of Arab brotherhood and stability.

Lebanon is being screwed by the Ummah - not the U.S.

Dhun said...

http://www.imao.us/sound/BombingSyria.mp3

Firehand said...

What would you expect from Syria and the idiots in the U.S. who supported Saddam & Co.? The Iraqis are voting in actual elections, their own army and police forces are increasingly taking over the work of killing/capturing terrorists, things are improving there, so they need somewhere else to say "U.S. bad! (fill in the blank) good!" And since Syria is in the news for a: thug government, b: killing your Prime Minister, and c: whining that the big bad wolf is about to blow down the door, they're a perfect choice. As shown by the various 'anonymous' comments above.

A lot of us think Lebanon kicking Syria out- all the way out- will be a good thing. And that if Syria really cared about ending terrorists crossing into Iraq, they could stop it. And if it takes a nudge from us to help those things happen? I think we can manage that.

M. Simon said...

ruby,

Bush's image in America is shit. For many it is because Syria and Iran still stand under their current regimes.

All of the decline in Bush's popularity is not solely because of "the war going badly".

There are quite a few of us who want more moves faster.

M. Simon said...

Lebanon has to make a deal with a super power.

It does not have the army to drive the Syrians out.

"A country will always have an army - either its own or some one elses."

So whose protectorate does Lebanon want to be? America's? Or Syria's?

Osama says people will back the strong horse. Was he wrong?

Anonymous said...

The anti-Iraq crowd hates the Lebanese just as much as they hate Iraqi voters.

"Democracy for me, but not for thee" is their theme song. They love to bash the BushHitler, but when a real tyrant assassinates a political rival, they study their shoelaces.

Don't listen to them. Keep the Cedar Revolution rolling!

Jon said...

I find it hard to believe that anybody with the freedom to read blogs and post comments would be stupid enough to defend the Syrian regime for any reason.

There has been constant diplomatic dialogue between the US and Syria. It only does so much good when the Syrian half of the conversation is mostly lies.

Can an argument against regime change be anything but an endorsement of dictatorship and minority rule? Lebanon is finally having reasonably free elections after decades of manipulation by an occupying power. Iraq is succeeding well enough that even the Arab League now wants to promote Iraqi federalism.

I think it's a positive regard for the Syrian people to desire regime change. And a free and democratic Syria is much more likely to get the Golan Heights back than one ruled by a murderous crime family.

Ramzi said...

Hariri was a virtual damn holding back the waters of interational pressure on Syria. They brought that damn down, and now complain of flooding.

The idea that the Syrian regime is playing victim here sickens me!

What world are they living in?!

JoseyWales said...

The idea that the Syrian regime is playing victim here sickens me!


Ramzi, I agree and would add: Does it help when our Lebanese leaders Saniora/Joumblatt come out today, saying that Hariri's murder was a "crime against Lebanon AND Syria"???

See my previous comments, here above.

"We want justice cuz the murder was against Syria"???

"We want a free Leb cuz it's good for Syria"????

What is this crap?

Damn it, can't our people say THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FOR OURSELVES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BUSINESS, regardless of Syria, Palestine and the other Arabs.

Anonymous said...

Great post. Freedom and Democracy are the way forward. Only dictators and the US college professors who abet them stand in the way.

The comment accusing you of being a GOP shill is priceless - as soon as I read that stupid comment I knew you had it exactly right and hit the nail squarely.

Anonymous said...

I was a UN peace-keeping soldier in the Norwegian battalion in Ebel Es Saqi in 1998. "Peace-keeping", that is, given the circumstances.

It is great to see how far Lebanon has come since that time! And at least some of us Europeans support the Lebanese people´s right to independence, human rights and democracy! Great post, and good luck going forward.

It is not about Syria or the US, it is about the people of Lebanon and Hariri. Secondly, it is about the people of Syria and their chance of getting rid of a brutal dictator. Thirdly, it is about the Iraqi people and their chance of living in security, without mainacs crossing from the Syrian border. Then it is about the security for the Israeli people. Then it is about the democratic development of the Palestinian people.

Then it is about the rest of us, including Bush or US domestic policy quarrels.

KH, Oslo, Norway

Anonymous said...

1988, not 1998. Ebel Es Saqi is in South Lebanon, for those not familiar with the place.

KH

Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

What is really pathetic here is and Hezbollah-Amal and Syria's denial.

Hezbollah and Amal's lies aren't really important. In a free country, you can't sell lies.

JoseyWales said...

KH,

Thank you for your service, and risking your life for Lebanon.

Charles Malik said...

KH and others,
Thank you for your posts. Reading your comments is very encouraging.

We still have a long way to go before Lebanon is fully free and stable.

Randall said...

Good post. It is good to hear from people living through the events in Lebanon. As a US Citizen (and one who supports Bush's policy in Iraq) I want to second your sentiment that what is happening in Lebanon and Syria is not about the US. It is about the people of Lebanon and, hopefully, Syria who can start to see an opportunity for freedom. It just so happens that this is happening at a time that converges with US strategic interests . . . which encourages us to support Lebanese interests. Perhaps we supported tyrants in the name of "stability" for too long, but freedom appears to be moving forward despite our tardiness.

Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

KH,

thank you and the UN !

Ymarsakar said...

I got an ultimatum for Syria

Cooperate with us and we will only execute half of your upper security command, not including Bashar but including his his heads.

Don't cooperate with us, and we will instigate the Iraqis to invade you, with Afghanistani Special Forces, and American SEALs and Marine Recon, capture all leaders, execute them, and then leave.

The Syrian's have no monopoly on ruthlessness or blackmail. They're amateurs.

When America wakes up, again, Syria is going to go bye bye, and they know it.